Curious Creatures

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Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.

Recent Episodes
  • Peter Ulrich Pt. 2: But - We are Not The Kitchen Fairies!
    Apr 18, 2024 – 37:23
  • Peter Ulrich Pt. 1: Three Unexpected Drummers!
    Apr 11, 2024 – 36:01
  • Nabil Ayers Pt. 2: How Could We Not? – This Is the Time!
    Apr 4, 2024 – 39:55
  • Nabil Ayers Pt. 1: Sheet – We Need To Get Back In
    Mar 31, 2024 – 38:34
  • Reggie Watts Pt. 2: Out Of The Melting Pot Into The Fire
    Mar 21, 2024 – 31:39
  • Reggie Watts Pt. 1: Kick Out The Jams Thumbsuckers
    Mar 14, 2024 – 38:12
  • Curious Creatures Curious Quotations: Our Life in the Gush of Boasts!
    Mar 7, 2024 – 32:30
  • Butch Vig Pt. 2: Fastest Blade in the West! ‘King of Tape Editing’
    Feb 29, 2024 – 39:13
  • Butch Vig Pt 1: The Changing of The Guard From The Beatles, thru’ Teen Spirit, into Garbage
    Feb 22, 2024 – 40:52
  • Curious Questions: We are the Goon Squad and we're Coming to Town Beep-Beep!!!
    Feb 15, 2024 – 51:24
  • Travel Channel: Pan Amsterdam: A Trumpet and a Laptop – That’s my Life!
    Feb 8, 2024 – 47:48
  • Noche Oscura/Train with No Station: A Song from ‘The Edge’ of The World ‘It All Sounds Great – Like a Good Donut!’
    Feb 1, 2024 – 30:29
  • Fred Armisen Pt. 2: Who Hugged Fred in NYC? Then whispered sweetly……‘Gotta Go Now!’
    Jan 25, 2024 – 47:39
  • Fred Armisen Pt. 1: Meet the Gang coz’ The Boys are Here!
    Jan 18, 2024 – 36:09
  • Bodies: Mary Lattimore Pt. 2: There are no wrong notes – there are no rules!
    Dec 21, 2023 – 39:41
  • Bodies: Mary Lattimore Pt. 1: Mushrooms in the dark- There are no mistakes!
    Dec 3, 2023 – 26:30
  • Uh Oh: Mark Bowen (IDLES) and the Attack of the Bionic Man
    Nov 16, 2023 – 45:45
  • Uh Oh: Arrow de Wilde: Starcrawler – Float Like A Butterfly Sting Like A Bee
    Nov 9, 2023 – 48:03
  • We Got To Move: Isaac Brock: Happy days in the Integratron?
    Nov 2, 2023 – 30:37
  • Ghosted at Home feat. Bobby Gillespie: ‘Hoppin’ and boppin’ - Flippin and floppin’
    Oct 26, 2023 – 26:55
  • Celeste Bell Pt. 2: The Do-It-Yourself World of X-Ray Spex
    Oct 16, 2023 – 30:19
  • Celeste Bell Pt. 1: The Eccentricity of Everyday People’
    Aug 31, 2023 – 36:10
  • Pt. 2: Bethany Cosentino Just Says Fuck It
    Aug 24, 2023 – 34:07
  • Bethany Cosentino Pt. 1: There’s a Million Freaks on the Streets of Los Angeles’
    Aug 17, 2023 – 39:49
  • Jacknife Lee Pt. 3: The Transformation of Horror to Beauty
    Aug 10, 2023 – 25:38
  • Jacknife Lee Pt. 2: Keeping 1000 Lights on for All
    Aug 3, 2023 – 34:13
  • Jacknife Lee Pt. 1: The Stroke of True Genius
    Jul 27, 2023 – 35:04
  • Wayne Hussey Pt. 2: Panic In Detroit!
    Jul 20, 2023 – 24:07
  • Wayne Hussey Pt. 1: Mr Pussy and the Murdered Melon mystery?
    Jul 13, 2023 – 36:50
  • Fat Mike Pt. 2: New Drumheads, Boiled Strings and Burgundy Velvet Panties!
    Jul 6, 2023 – 27:24
  • Fat Mike Pt. 1: Fat Mike Reveals His Underwear Live on Radio!!
    Jun 29, 2023 – 31:08
  • Curious Questions: No Seats at The Dream Show!
    Jun 16, 2023 – 19:19
  • Curious Questions: On the Buses - Film Like!
    Jun 8, 2023 – 21:19
  • Hamilton Leithauser and The Stone-Deaf Soundman
    Jun 1, 2023 – 39:09
  • Kele Okereke Pt. 2: The People I Remember…
    May 5, 2023 – 36:53
  • Kele Okereke Pt. 1: The Traveling Circus of Sublimated Ego
    Apr 27, 2023 – 39:50
  • Avey Tare Pt. 2: Nothing Lasts Forever - We Can’t Really Hold On To Anything
    Apr 20, 2023 – 33:43
  • Avey Tare Pt. 1: Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it?
    Apr 13, 2023 – 38:39
  • Shirley Manson: Lol & Budgie love Shirley - True!
    Apr 6, 2023 – 51:10
  • Meg Myers Pt. 2: Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul!
    Mar 30, 2023 – 35:08
  • Meg Myers Pt. 1: I Am Not The Body
    Mar 23, 2023 – 35:27
  • Ilan Rubin Pt. 2: Non-Dancing-Dancing – It’s The Music Not The Place!
    Mar 16, 2023 – 39:07
  • Ilan Rubin Pt. 1: Terror in The IEMS - NIN and Beyond!
    Mar 9, 2023 – 42:57
  • Miki Berenyi Pt. 3: Drugs are Bad? - The Paraphernalia of Professionals
    Mar 2, 2023 – 31:59
  • Miki Berenyi Pt. 2: Bon Jovi on Tour or What?!
    Feb 23, 2023 – 35:48
  • Miki Berenyi Pt. 1: Miss being in a band? Loved it but Nah!
    Feb 16, 2023 – 46:36
  • Nick Launay Pt. 2: Tricks of the Trade & 3 Corners of the Planet
    Feb 9, 2023 – 40:18
  • Nick Launay Pt. 1: Lucky Break & Making Fackin’ Music Maan!
    Feb 2, 2023 – 50:09
  • Julianne Regan Pt. 2: Dharma Transmission – Nothing Curated
    Jan 26, 2023 – 34:21
  • Julianne Regan Pt. 1: Eve, Chaucer and the Wife of Bath
    Jan 19, 2023 – 39:40
Recent Reviews
  • chuckthebabyoutthewindow
    have kristin hersh on
    would be good
  • Seeker2077
    Off Label Benefits
    Is it bad that this turned out to be a great trauma and addiction recovery podcast for me? The hosts’ recollections and discussions with fellow artists are sometimes very funny, sometimes unexpectedly moving, and usually relatable and insightful about development, relationships and creativity. (I’m only up to Aug 2022, but the interviews with Terri Nunn and Kevin Haskins are standout in this aspect so far.) Grateful to Lol and Budgie for the vulnerability and humor they brought to this project, and I hope to hear more from them, wherever that goes.
  • Cure and Siouxsie Fan
    More guests from your time
    Such a wonderful "fly on the wall" perspective of two of my favorite bands. I just wish they had more guests from around their time not contemporary artists (Justin excluded). No one who loves Budgie and Lol cares about LCD sound system, in fact they generally strongly dislike, if not hate, them.
  • thrashingtiger
    The Best
    Great guests & amazing hosts. Love it.
  • DJTomdog
    Not a nostalgia podcast, but humor and philosophy for now and the future
    Yes, Lol and Budgie talk to some amazing friends and characters who harken back to their earliest days in music and life but all these people are still creating and producing, today. They also have many guests who they are “meeting” for the first time on the podcast and who are only recently creating music and art. Budgie and Lol’s keen interest in art and life make everything interesting and often very humorous!
  • Norn Cutson
    Fabulous stories from Old Friends
    I didn’t know about the podcast, found it via Miki Berenyi! I love that Budgie & Lol give us a proper back-&-forth conversation, not a standard question/answer interview! I love following the tangents, and hearing the human stories behind the music. Budgie & Lol’s warmth - which might be surprising for some people - helps their guests open up with a candid vulnerability they wouldn’t allow themselves in other venues. I appreciate this podcast; their creativity was what inspired the best things about me. Thank you!
  • Daren James
    Great interviews and guest
    What I love most about this show is the interesting guests they have on. The guys seen to have a connection with everyone they interview and it really shows. Lots of fun stories you wouldn’t hear anywhere else.
  • Jess Minter
    Wonderful!
    I was pleasantly surprised when I stumbled upon Curious Creatures! Who knew Lol and Budgie could could be so interesting! Ha! It certainly helps that I’m a huge Cure and Siouxsie/Creatures fan BUT wow! I’m addicted! Both Lol and Budgie are so entertaining! And of course, I love to hear about the stories with their former bands. Great podcast all around! Wonderful!
  • Telefunky
    Lovecast
    I started listening to Curious Creatures to hear Cure and Banshees stories I hadn’t heard before, but in a very short period of time I realized this show is about so much more. It’s about dreams, betrayal, heartbreak, self-reflection and renewal. This Podcast is as cathartic as it is informative. 5 stars.
  • Watchmen Studios
    Fantastic
    Just an amazing podcast. Fascinating hearing about the behind the scenes stories of the music that means so much.
  • KrusherBass
    Love it
    I found this podcast and binged the entire library. I grew up listening to the Ramones and UK Punk, the Pistols and Clash etc and transitioned in to the post punk and beyond. I love the stores and interviews on this podcast and am fan of Budgie and Lol’s bands, thank you for finding a new way to entertain me!
  • hauswyf
    Lol & Budgie sound like best friends
    They have thoughtful conversations & their genuine admiration for guests & each other is a gift to listen to.
  • mylove7969
    5stars.
    Great pod!!
  • YourMomIsAlwaysRight
    A true gem
    I am absolutely awestruck by this new pod, so grateful I finally found it. As a teenager in the mid-80’s I love hearing from those who performed the sounds of my youth. Looking back is always fun, but even more so when you aren’t so full of teen angst and can listen to the stories told in a raw and blissfully entertaining way. As much as I loved punk in my youth, adult me finally understands why. Keep them coming!
  • Jennimay
    I Heart Budgie
    Lifelong pals and post punk icons Budgie & Lol reminisce and have occasional guests from the alt-rock scenes. As an admirer of Budgie’s various projects spanning numerous genres, I am looking forward to hearing his experiences in the different scenes. Lol and Budgie have a great rapport and makes for an easy listen.
  • ScaryCreature
    My Dreams Came True
    As a angst teen, the Cure, the Creatures and Siouxsie and the Banshees just spoke to me. I felt like a stalker wanting to know everything about them, and simply idolized these bands. Now with Lol and Budgie with this amazing podcast, I feel like I’m in their personal sewing circle, listening to all the gossip and stories that I only dreamed of as a teen. I’m addicted.
  • shadownlite
    Yes.
    My enjoyment from this podcast is huge. It speaks to my teen/early 20s years as a goth/punk kid. It gets the nostalgia going. Adore it.
  • Mike Ness’s Guitar Pick
    Peek A Boo This Podcast Is For You!
    Break out your old goth lunchbox! It’s on. Lol Tolhurst from The Cure and Budgie from Siousxsie & The Banchees. I was an 80’s/90’s goth. This is perfect. Love the first episode. Both Lol and Budgie make a great team. They really compliment each other. Even if you didn’t own a trench coat with Siousxie painted on it or had Robert Smith hair, you will still love this podcast. Expect great topics, honest conversations and Guests. Can’t wait to hear more shows.
  • goodmorningsam
    Smiled all the way through!
    Enjoyed that so much! Great first episode! So nice to hear Lol and Budgie share memories. I could listen to this all day. Smiled all the way through! Thank you Curious Creatures!!!!
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